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Bienvenue sur Wikipédia, The Obento Musubi !
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Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans9 commentaires3 participants à la discussion
Bonjour. Avez-vous pris le temps de discuter quelque part de l'insertion de modèle avant de vous lancer dans des modifications en masse ? Ce modèle est actuellement discuté ici. Kropotkine_11326 décembre 2008 à 10:52 (CET)Répondre
The current discussion on the « bistro » seems to establish that it's better to wait before adding this template. Some options can be add and even the goal of this template isn't obvious. Ice Scream-_-'26 décembre 2008 à 11:18 (CET)Répondre
I see what's the deal, but on the french wiki we avoid put a template on every talk pages, without any discussions about this. We do not translate everything from :en too, we adapt it to readers. This template only say what is already know by them, creating a blue links where there is sometimes nothing (the wikipedia 1.0 project has been critiziced for that too). Wait a couple of week for talks to see if everyone is ok with such template. You found it unachieved beacuse it was unused.
Effectivement, la communauté fait beaucoup d'efforts pour s'adapter au lecteur et il est souvent préférable, avant de grosses ou nombreuses modifications de discuter et obtenir l'accord gobal de tout le monde. Bonne nuit. Ice Scream-_-'26 décembre 2008 à 12:19 (CET)Répondre
Yes I am, but I haven't a lot of time. If you think something goes wrong or someone is reverting you, leave me a message or ask directly to him/them (with the « babel », you can see that many users speak english). Maybe an user from Québec should be better for you as his hour are much closer to you. Ice Scream-_-'26 décembre 2008 à 13:13 (CET)Répondre
Well, for what you ask in Accueil, even if I see what you mean, I don't know to you ask for it and see if that's needed. You maybe should ask to someone you had edit thisin the history tab. Ice Scream-_-'26 décembre 2008 à 13:36 (CET)Répondre
I have added ids to the two tables in Accueil, as you asked for a way to customize them in your monobook. This is better than trying to change font-sizes for everybody, as it is the result of the "less worst" compromise.
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans2 commentaires1 participant à la discussion
I'm the one who reverted your edit making it collapsible. The main reason is that we try to keep, as far as possible, infoboxes coherent through all articles, with predictible comportements : it will not be coherent if some collapse and others do not. Another reason is that collapsible boxes are not really well accepted here. And, last but not least, if this {{Infobox État des États-Unis}} seems too long indeed, we should take care to its content : too much images, that could be presented elsewhere in the article, with contextual information.
Anyway : thank you for the graphical work on this infobox. It needs some corrections for a more valid code (use of TH and TD, SCOPE attribut, etc.), I'll try to do that this morning. --Lgd (d) 27 décembre 2008 à 08:41 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
For accessibility, please do not use pixels for font-size (Internet Explorer doesn't resize text sized in pixels). Use em. --Lgd (d) 27 décembre 2008 à 12:18 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Hello,
I have noticed that you have modified the aspect of the infobox Chef d'État used for all the presidents. The result is not bad, it's even beautiful, but there is a problem. Indeed, the aspect of the infobox is not the same for all the presidents. For example for the italian president (Giorgio Napolitano), the infobox looks like the old one. On the opposite for the federal president of Germany (Horst Köhler), the infobox has the new aspect. Could you find the problem and fix it? At the same time, I think that there is really too much space in the new version of the infobox. Could you strongly reduce the spaces in the infobox in order to reduce its size. Finally, other infoboxes are "linked" to this one, like for example the infobox Premier ministre for the prime ministers, Gouverneur for the governors and Monarque for the Monarchs. If you modify the appearance of one of them, you will have to modify all these infoboxes. The colors have to by different to differentiate them. Thank you, Ludo33 (d) 28 décembre 2008 à 22:17 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Hello, I just saw that you adapted the above-mentionned model. Well not bad to make it like you did, graphically. However you added some sentences about images and elements at first place. But if you read more carefully the instructions, you can see that the fifth point already includes it, in a more gentle or diplomatic way. Here's a translation of that point, hoping I render the appropriate idea of the sentence: "Limit the amount of images. One image is usually enough and it preferably illustrates the first information in the list." The key word here is « preferably »: we allow images for other information than the first in the list, instead of removing that possibility, like your sentence showed (and your diff expressed). So, I removed that sentence and corrected the parent model. Best regads, FrórOook?29 décembre 2008 à 11:03 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Hello Obento-Musubi,
I noticed that you modified this model recently. I reverted the changes for the moment, not that I mean that everything you did should be undone - I understand quite well that you meant to improve the model ! - but because important modifications like these should not be introduced without asking for other people’s opinion.
As a matter of fact, I disagree with some of the new choices:
I strongly object the use of a fully coloured background, for it makes information less easy to read, especially when the colour is quite dark, because there is less contrast between the text in black (and small characters) and background. Colours are for quick identification of language families and nothing more. White is better to read text on.
The grey background for the extract should be avoided for the same reason.
I am not against that removing visible separating lines in the table but since it makes the content (slightly) less clearly organised, it might not meet general approval.
I think you should first experiment several new looks on a test page, ask people for opinion and implement changes only afterwards. The talk page for the French Wikiproject for languages is there : Projet:Langues/Café des linguistes. I also advise you to get in touch with the Project for modifying Infoboxes, there : Projet:Infobox.
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
hello, I saw that you worked on the aesthetics of some infobox. Work is good, a few brief comments, however: there is a guideline about aesthetics, see here: Projet:Infobox/V2. Please, take a look ;)
Another things : Rounding are not excellents and use a "balise" of Mozilla (Firefox).
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans2 commentaires2 participants à la discussion
Bonjour Obento Musubi et très bienvenue sur le projet Alimentation et gastronomie où tu t'es inscrit fin décembre. (J'espère que je ne te choques pas en te tutoyant.) Que 2009 t'apporte de nombreuses joies sur Wikipédia ! --Égoïté (d) 8 janvier 2009 à 07:31 (CET)Répondre
Bonsoir Obento Musubi et à mon tour de te souhaiter la bienvenue. Notre amie Égoïté (d · c · b) m'a demandé de prendre le relais avec toi. As-tu, dans le cadre de ton adhésion au Projet, déjà des thèmes d'intervention ou préfères-tu intervenir plus ponctuellement ? Le champ est large et tout est possible. Il y a aussi des pages à faire monter vers le BA ou l'AdQ, si quelques unes te tentent... À te lire et très amicalement JPS68 (d) 18 janvier 2009 à 22:10 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans2 commentaires1 participant à la discussion
Hi Obento!
Thanks for improving infoboxes on wk.fr; for example, Ville USA. Well done! I'm helping a very young wk, wk.ext (Estremaduran), with so far only 570 pages, to have infoboxes. I was wondering how I could transfer some of the infoboxes from wk.fr to wk.ext. Is it possible at all? Do you have any experience in transwiki? I hope I'll hear from you soon. Keep up the good work - CheepnisAroma | ✍23 février 2009 à 21:13 (CET)Répondre
I'm sorry, I have no idea what your point is. Yes, I did know what I was doing. I was fixing the infobox syntax, and I moved the protection template to the bottom of the page, near the AdQ template. Amicalement, obentomusubi4 mars 2009 à 23:58 (CET)Répondre
I would appreciate it if you would stop threatening me. My edits are in good faith, and you know well that they are. And, for your information, Projet:V2 recommends the syntax that I made. So, don't tell me I'm downright stupid and wrong when there are guidelines that support my edits. Please just back off, because I don't appreciate threats like the ones you make toward me. I believe I have been more than friendly to you. Thanks! obentomusubi5 mars 2009 à 07:32 (CET)Répondre
Well, "wrong" is subjective, isn't it? I think my edit was perfectly fine. You apparently think otherwise. Comments like "Watch out" are usually seen as threats. Personally, I took it as though you were going to block me or ask the community if I should be blocked. I apologize if I seemed defensive. I think you would too if somebody said something you thought was threatening. obentomusubi5 mars 2009 à 07:38 (CET)Répondre
Alors apparemment c'est mon anglais qui pose problème, donc on va revenir aux fondamentaux. « Fais attention », c'est plus pour que je n'ai pas à surveiller tes édits. Je vais me répéter mais le modèle que tu as déplacé ne se déplace pas (usage) et les modèles gardent leur majuscule initiale. Tu as été reverté deux fois, ne vois-tu toujours aucun problème ? Like tears in rain{-_-}5 mars 2009 à 07:44 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Salut, je ne sais pas si tu as ajouté la page dans ta liste de suivi, donc je me permet de te dire que je viens de te poser une question sur ladite page. Cordialement, --Sniff (d) 10 mars 2009 à 00:14 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans8 commentaires2 participants à la discussion
Hi, the articles on the main page of the french wikipedia are featured and good articles. But we produce a little bite more good and featured articles than we have days in a year, but less than 365 Featured articles. A solution we found, was that we present 1 Featured article most times, and when we lack a featured one, 2 good articles from time to time.
Well, it's not a "big" problem, it just seems like it's special for an article when they get their own day, and it's less special when articles have to share a day. That's sort of my take on it. Cheers, obentomusubi10 mars 2009 à 08:16 (CET)Répondre
But in some way, you are true : Featured articles are "more special" than good articles
By the way, there are small syntaxic errors in your disclaimer about your french level, on your talk page. Do you wish me to fix it, or do you prefer to keep it in that way so that peope really understand what you mean when you say it's hard for you to speak french, but you try your best ? --Lilyu (Répondre) 10 mars 2009 à 08:22 (CET)Répondre
Thanks. :) You should seriously be my friend on here, because I don't think I have many really good friends here, so I'm blindly editing, and I'm probably making a whole bunch of French errors along the way. (I'm not formally educated). Thanks for everything, obentomusubi10 mars 2009 à 08:39 (CET)Répondre
I can see you have some quite good knowledge about wikipedia and wiki code. I'm quite good at english, i can read fluently log english articles, but even at that level, i dont feel i would be able to contribute to english wikipedia : i still do make syntaxic errors or laking vocabulary for contributing to an encyclopedia.
I gave a look at your contributions here, on en wiki, 'n yur talk page there. Looks like you're not some vandale blocked migrating to another wikipedia, as it sometimes happen, but at least, it seams you had some troubles with your image uplaods there, may i suggest you avoid uploading images on fr wikipedia ? By the way, we dont host images, there are either free licensed and uploaded on commons, and only some really, really few fair use cases are allowed (new buildings's photo that have COM:FOP troubles, or logos, that kind of stuff)
Oui, je suis japonais-americain. . Merci beaucoup ! In fact, I was blocked on the Spanish Wikipedia, but I still believe I was unfairly blocked. I'm not migrating here or to other wikis, because I don't believe in that. I just want to make as many Wikipedias as possible better places. obentomusubi10 mars 2009 à 10:05 (CET)Répondre
I'm from tahiti :)
In fact, i think you are too much active for me to check all your contributions. And most of them are borring technical edits (a space, a dot, an infobox etc). If you do write sentences in the article, call me for me to check if it's correct in french, otherwise, no problem :)--Lilyu (Répondre) 10 mars 2009 à 13:46 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans7 commentaires2 participants à la discussion
Hi,
Would you please like to stop your dummy edits ? It is not the first time, whereas it seems totally useless, as if you edit a second time, just after saving your previous edit, the space has disapeared automatically. Or you really have to let me know your motivation.
Thanks. BR. Gemini1980oui ? non ?17 avril 2009 à 01:28 (CEST)Répondre
I would like it if you wouldn't call them "dummy edits". The reason why I made a space is because the line height is not correct on some "Lumière Sur..." dates. By adding a break, it fixes the line height, for me especially since my line height is custom made. An alternate solution would be to edit the Main Page directly and putting the Lumiere Sur template on its own line. obentomusubi17 avril 2009 à 01:46 (CEST)Répondre
It seems that the line height is not correct only to you, so I suggest to change your customization or to live with this as long as we are on a collaborative project. For sure, you will not add artificial breaks on all Lumière sur, all the more it is automatically removed at each edit. Gemini1980oui ? non ?17 avril 2009 à 18:05 (CEST)Répondre
Why does it seem that you try to fault me for everything all of the time? We have argued many times before, and I would appreciate it if you stopped speaking to me like I don't know what I'm doing. Constructive criticism is usually more helpful than just wronging each and every one of my actions. obentomusubi17 avril 2009 à 22:53 (CEST)Répondre
I find only one previous message from me on this page which is not arguing and I don't remember any other discussion between you and me. Maybe you could help me and tell me where comes from this feeling that I try to fault you; because I don't think I'm considered as a tyrant on WP:fr. So do you feel guilty for something ? I just know that you're blocked on two other WP (if I'm right), and actually I'm beginning to understand why if you're doing some edits that are not consensual and refuse to admit the problem. So don't speak about "complaints". Thanks. Gemini1980oui ? non ?18 avril 2009 à 01:57 (CEST)Répondre
Oh, I'm sorry. I got you confused with another editor. I tend to get easily frustrated when people make me feel like my edits are useless or worthless (like calling them "dummy edits"). I only have gotten blocked at the Spanish Wikipedia, no other. That was because somebody there was not treating me nicely. After I stood up for my beliefs, they blocked me. Désolé. obentomusubi18 avril 2009 à 05:24 (CEST)Répondre
My goal wasn't to frustate you with two words. See Aide:Dummy edit (and equivalent in english) to understand the way I used it. It was to make you understand that you would better stop as they are done for your own comfort only. Kindly. Gemini1980oui ? non ?18 avril 2009 à 11:47 (CEST)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans5 commentaires4 participants à la discussion
Bonsoir, j'ai remis les couleurs en passant par le système rgb comme à l'origine. Les couleurs de chaque infobox du projet jeu vidéo ont été minutieusement choisi dans le cadre d'une refonte des infobox il y a déjà quelques temps, et il est important pour nous de conserver ces couleurs. D'où mon revert.
I'm wondering if there are no mistakes in your modifications of the infobox. Assassin's Creed or Assassin's Creed II, for example, don't look correct in a "Firefox 3.0.9 + Windows Vista" configuration. I tried to look in "Internet Explorer 7.0.6" and it works perfectly. I think your new code don't accept carriage return or bullet in Firefox. I can see dates twice, in Assassin's Creed, before the introduction and in the infobox. Do you think you can fix that ? ~ PV250X (Discuter) ~ 23 avril 2009 à 09:09 (CEST)Répondre
I have reverted. I had the same result that PV250X, and it was a complete mess (see screenshot), and I assume that our system (Vista/Firefox) is fairly common. Maybe some of your modifications were good, I cannot tell. But I am quite doubtful for some, as Lgd (d · c · b) who is one of the local gurus for Infoboxes, stated a few months ago that hiddenStructure was to be avoided and changed the infobox accordingly. I must say that I sort of trust him on this matter.
Anyway, if you have to make serious tweaks in the code, could you, please, work on it in your own personal sandbox. If your version is good, it will be adopted. Thanks, Jean-Fred (d) 23 avril 2009 à 13:32 (CEST)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 15 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Bonjour,
Je ne sais pas ce que tu voulais faire en ajoutant "|importance=faible|avancement=AdQ" dans un modèle non relié de la discussion:Cyclone Nargis mais cela n'a aucun effet et j'ai dû le retirer. Si tu voulais mettre un bandeau de projet, il faut utiliser le modèle approprié. Pierre cb (d) 23 mai 2009 à 14:16 (CEST)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 14 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Et toutes autres expressions synonymes... Avant même de donner un avis là, je fais appel à toi Modèle:Prière (qui n'existe pas à ma connaissance, faudra demander à quelqu'un...) Tel que c'est parti... c'est mal parti. Une personne intéressée, sensée, de poids (au figuré bien entendu) est demandée ! Je sais que tu es super occupé mais... --Égoïté (d) 26 juin 2009 à 00:17 (CEST)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 14 ans4 commentaires2 participants à la discussion
Hi,
Thanks for having changed this infobox into V2. It looks pretty now . (And I was thinking about a V2 for this infobox just 2 days ago, you did it for me .)
Dernier commentaire : il y a 14 ans3 commentaires2 participants à la discussion
Bonjour, j'aurais voulu que l'infobox sur les symboles des états américains soit déroulable pour qu'elle prenne moins de place dans les articles. Merci d'avance --Urban (d) 23 décembre 2009 à 14:27 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 14 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Bonjour à toi. Je t'envoie ce petit message pour te signaler que j'ai révoqué une modification que tu as faites dans modèle:étoile. Tes travaux sur les infobox sont apparemment appréciées, mais je n'ai pas compris ce que tu avais voulu faire sur le modèle:étoile. Elle a conduit a une changement de couleur alors que les autres infobox du projet:astronomie étaient toutes bleues. De plus on ne pouvait plus voir les titres des sections de l'infobox, et les diverses couleurs qui permettaient une meilleure lisibilité. J'ai posé le problème ici. Bonne continuation à toi. Guillaume (bah?) 3 janvier 2010 à 14:32 (CET)Répondre
Dernier commentaire : il y a 13 ans1 commentaire1 participant à la discussion
Il y a une proposition de mise en commun de la PdD du Projet:Alimentation et gastronomie pour le projet Alim et gastro, le projet Plantes utiles et celui de la Pomme de terre. D’autre part, il y a hésitation sur le titre de cette PdD. Ton avis est vivement souhaité ici. Amitiés, --Égoïté (d) 6 juillet 2010 à 18:37 (CEST)Répondre
I'm wondering if the modification you did about switching the userbox template with the en lua module may broke the user page for this users. I don't know if it's because :
the usercategory set in their template aren't defined in french ;
there is something to do with the nocat parameter ;
usercategory is not set to the Category handler args (category2) ?
I'm really not sure how this stuff works, could you please take a look ?